yay!

actually, Manyoso, we have in a few short days put together a mailing list, a place in CVS, much of the CIG done, content for the HIG started and formatting rules in place. so no, this isn't "all talk". and yes, there is a lot of value in what we are attempting to do.

the rest of your rant is similarly ill-informed. thanks for adding to noise rather than contributing to the solution. i'm sure it felt good to get it off your chest, though.